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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  flamegrilled "I will create a couple more analogies that you can have fun misapplying and pretending not to understand."

  I don't have to pretend.
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  Who Made The Code?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
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  a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

  this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

  as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

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  THE GLADIATOR

  After cutting and pasting the work of clever scientific men, Perry’s cunning plan was to declare that such complexity must have come from his god. Proof that his god exists and created the universe. Due to the clever men on this thread, the plan has failed.

  I have contributed nothing, preferring to follow the bible’s advice:

  "Even a fool, if he stays silent, is thought wise; he who keeps his mouth shut can pass for smart."

  Proverbs 17:28 (CJB)
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  In my experience someone on the journey, from believing in the god of the bible, to atheism, passes through a number of gates. Initially the person accepts the god of the bible as good and loving. As the person matures they begin to question the morality of the god of the bible.

  Next, comes the attempt to justify the conduct of this god. Honesty eventually leads to disenchantment with their god’s morality. When their god becomes untenable to them, the person rejects much of the bible and begins to invent a god that matches up to their standards. They will often explore eastern religion and opt for a different religion that is closer to their ideals.

  Many return and try to build a belief system around a gentle Jesus persona. This leads to an elaborate jigsaw of ill fitting pieces gleaned from various sources. Such as personal revelation, selected passages taken from the New Testament, while ignoring the rest of the bible, and guesswork.

  Just as the jig-saw appears to be almost complete, it becomes evident that pieces are missing, ill fitting, or entirely wrong. After many years of trying to complete the jigsaw they realize that the whole exercise has been futile, because despite their best efforts it becomes clear that the god of the bible does not exist and never did. They no longer have a god to love, serve, be angry with, ask for help, special treats, or everlasting life. Game over, set and match.
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Children should be taught facts.

  They should be presented with theories to discuss and analyze.

  They should not be indoctrinated or forced to worship the god that their culture endorses.

  How they got here is of less importance than what they do while they are here.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  What has to be remembered, is that many on this forum have walked away from a spiritual belief system. We now live without the delusion that the Hebrew desert god will contain his temper for long enough to talk to us, save us, punish us, kill our enemies, bless us, provide food from heaven, or make us more important than others because we have faith.

  We are alone, and that is fine. We don’t want to live forever or drift off to live a disembodied life in the sky. We have accepted that we will die, and that will be the end for us personally.

  We don’t blame a non-existent god for suffering; ours or anyone else’s. We are not angry, vengeful, or seeking a showdown. We leave that childish pantomime to the various gods that have been impregnated into our long history.

  We recognize how privileged we are to have had the opportunity to spend a short time on this beautiful, hostile and torn planet. In short, we have grown up. Cheers!
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Reality cuts a path through supposition and belief. This discussion has reached a point where it is just shifting Teutonic plates. Debating and point scoring won’t bring back the 250,000 people who died in the tsunami.

  It won’t bring the god of the bible back either; how could it - he wasn’t there.
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  These new sugarless gummy bears give everybody explosive diarhea

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. social
  2. humour

  you have got to see the reviews here on amazon, http://www.amazon.com/haribo-sugar-classic-gummi-bears/product-reviews/b006j1fblm/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?showviewpoints=1.

  people are now using them as pranks.

  i'd love to send the gb a gift of gummy bears now lol.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Wow! I could have used a weapon like that in the Roman arena.
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Tammy - that's fair comment.
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  Should Creationism Ever Be Taught In Schools?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.

  i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.

  seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .

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  THE GLADIATOR

  metatron I reject Creationism. I accept Evolution.

  Evolution deals with - evolution, it doesn't address the issue of where life originated, though science has some theories.

  Perhaps we came from another planet or universe. Martian and flying saucer theories abound.

  I reincarnated from Roman times, but that is fairly unusual.